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In 2025, I found myself
wrestling with frustration that

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God was not giving me joy.
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me what was actually happening.
It wasn’t that he was

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withholding joy, it was that I
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What followed was an invitation
to spend 30 days looking at 30

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passages on Joy and turning it
into a devotional called

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Rejecting Joy No longer.
You’d think I would have learned

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that coming into 2026, I was
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God, why are you making me so
hopeless?

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And God very patiently let me
know the reality.

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He wasn’t withholding hope.
I was rejecting it.

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And so now here I am, spending
30 days looking at 30 passages

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on hope.
And my hope is that this

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encourages you.
One thing that’s different this

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year is I felt like God was
inviting me to be publicly

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transparent with my processing.
To actually go live on social

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media, pull out a random verse,
and then read and process

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through it on camera.
This isn’t me coming to you as

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an expert on hope, but me coming
to you honestly as someone

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wrestling with hope.
And by witnessing that some of

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you might feel less alone, may
feel seen and understood, may

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end up being encouraged in a way
that is far deeper than the best

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platitude.
So join me as I spend 30 days

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navigating 30 passages on Hope.
We conclude with day 31.

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You’re listening to episode 238
of the Where Did You See God

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podcast.
Good morning folks on this, the

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final day of our Hope journey.
If you are just joining for the

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first time, you’ve been missing
out.

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Read all these papers.
These are all the verses that we

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have been exploring over the
last month and today is day 31.

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Every day I would pray before
pulling out one of these verses.

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Today will be the first day that
I do not because there is only

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one and you get a sneak peek.
Today I will likely finish

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writing Rejecting Hope No longer
31 day devotional on Hope.

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It is basically all written
except for today’s and the intro

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and the outro that will
hopefully then be up on Amazon

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by early next week.
How are we closing out this 31

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day devotional?
Well, let’s pray and find out.

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Father God, I just want to thank
you that you were God and you

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are good.
And for this past month of

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really getting into your word
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this idea of hope.
So I thank you for this final

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verse to bring it home.
Holy Spirit, I thank you for

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your intentionality and I invite
you to move within me.

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Give me ears to hear, eyes to
see a mind that is open to your

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creativity.
But I also pray the same for

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those that are listening, that
they may perceive things that I

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miss that I may never hear
about.

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Because your word is living and
active.

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It’s sharper than any double
edged sword, cutting down to the

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marrow and dividing everything.
You’re doing more with your word

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than just engaging our minds.
So we submit ourselves to you,

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our entire being.
Last name.

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Amen.
Now if you watched yesterday, I

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felt like yesterday’s verse
would have been a great closer.

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But this is actually the
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OK, OK, I’ll take it.
We are going back to job.

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So my initial response was, oh
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Note.
This is an I’m.

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I’m going to have to look into
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This is curious.
It is a good closer though.

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It is a good closer.
You can breathe now.

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Job 1118 And you will feel
secure because there is hope.

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You will look around and take
your rest in security.

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And you will feel secure because
there is hope.

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You will look around and take
your rest in security.

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Context is important.
If this is where I think it is,

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we’re going to have some things
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This is true.
Though this verse is true, it is

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supported by the last 30 days.
When we lean into this hope, we

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will feel secure because there
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Hope is actually real.
And when we accept that reality,

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we can actually begin to feel
secure even as things are still

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falling apart.
We will look around and take our

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rest in security.
Take our rest in God’s security,

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not our own, not the security of
those around us, in an eternal

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being providing eternal
security, and we can rest in it

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’cause we will know no matter
what happens, God has got us.

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So it’s a good verse, but I
suspect a context is a little

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trickier than meets the eye.
Could be wrong, but Job 11 verse

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18, yes, I was not wrong.
So what’s my hold up here, Paul?

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Why aren’t you just taking this
verse at face value?

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It’s a good verse, closes out
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Why would you get things all
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Well, because it’s not God that
says this.

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It’s not Job that says this.
It’s Zofar.

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Zofar the Namathite.
Namathite.

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What issue do I have with Zofar?
Nothing against so far in

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particular.
It’s this group of friends.

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As you may know, Job lived a
life really trying to seek an

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honor God.
Really.

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I mean, he was really trying to
seek an honor God, not just for

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himself, but whenever his
children would throw parties, he

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would do extra work to make
things right between them and

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God.
He would take on that burden

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because of his love for his
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And he was a good man and
everybody, everybody knew,

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everybody respected him.
And he was, he was living for

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God.
So much so that it says the

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accuser, Satan goes up to God
and says, well, God says to him,

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have you ever considered my, my
servant Job?

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I mean, Job is really living his
life in honor of me, in

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reverence of me.
And the accusers like, well, you

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know, he’s only doing that
because you’re blessing him.

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I mean, if you weren’t blessing
him, he’d be out.

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In fact, if you allowed any kind
of hardship to hit him, he’d be

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out.
God knew Job’s heart so deeply

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that he knew Job was not bound
to simply the here and now, to

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simply eternity, that his
devotion and reverence was not

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attached to the blessings.
We’re not going to get deep into

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Job because it is very
difficult, the idea of God

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allowing these things to happen.
That’s a whole theological

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journey we will not take here.
But let’s just get the broad

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sweeps of the enemy then hits
Job in every conceivable way

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except killing him, takes
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And it is so disastrous that
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His wife turns against Job
because their assumption is he

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must have done something wrong.
What is Job’s response when he

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gets the news of losing
everything, including his

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children?
He praises God so the enemy hits

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harder and takes his health
away.

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He doesn’t take his life, but
he’s covered in boils and

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lesions, and Job’s wife says
curse God and die.

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Job does not.
But Job is very confused.

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He knows he doesn’t believe he’s
perfect, but he knows he’s been

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living as righteously as he
could to the best of his

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ability.
He’s been trying to love God and

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love others, so he cannot think
of any singular sin that could

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have caused this.
But his friends, after sitting

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with him for about a week
quietly, they’ve been biting

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their tongues, but they’re like,
man, Job must have done

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something.
And hadn’t he been acting

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righteous this whole time?
And what’s he been hiding?

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See, I knew, I knew there must
be something.

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And so they come in gently and
they’re like, oh, man, this is

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rough, Joe.
But you know, if you just just

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confess what you did, God’s got
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God will forgive you.
And Joe’s like, I didn’t do

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anything.
Like I don’t understand what is

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happening.
And I need God to explain this

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because none of this makes sense
in my theology.

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None of this makes sense around
who I know God to be.

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So I need God to answer me.
But man, I, I just kind of wish

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I was never born at this point
’cause this is awful.

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Like I’m not gonna curse God.
God is still God.

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God is still good.
But man, oh man, whatever’s

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going on, curse the day of my
birth.

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Then this friend start to get
mad.

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It’s like, look, just admit what
you did.

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Like stop being so proud of
look, just just admit what you

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did and Job doesn’t.
So they get angry and angrier.

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And so This is why I was
concerned about this verse,

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because if it was God saying it,
which I knew it wasn’t because

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it was too early for that to be,
then yeah, it’s a great word.

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If it’s Job saying it, then he’s
naming spiritual truth, though

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maybe from a particularly hard
place.

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But if it’s the friend saying
it, they had some murky

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theology.
It wasn’t that their theology

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was entirely wrong.
They say a lot of things that

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Job would agree with, but there
was misalignment in their

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theology.
One of the biggest misalignments

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was if something bad happens,
that means you must have sinned.

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That was not true in Job’s case.
I don’t know how much I want to

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read of this, but let’s start
hearing what Zofar says.

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So Job has just responded back
to them and Zofar is getting

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really annoyed and he’s like,
are all these words to go

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unanswered?
Is this talker to be vindicated?

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Will your idle talk reduce
others to silence?

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Will no one rebuke you when you
mock?

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You say to God, My beliefs are
flawless, and I am pure in your

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sight.
Oh, how I wish that God would

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speak, that He would open his
lips against you and disclose to

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you the secrets of wisdom.
For true wisdom has two sides.

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Know this, God has even
forgotten some of your sin.

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Can you fathom the mysteries of
God?

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Can you probe the limits of the
Almighty?

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They are higher than the heavens
above.

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What can you do?
They are deeper than the desk

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below.
What can you know?

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Their measure is longer than the
earth and wider than the sea.

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If he comes along and confines
you in prison and convenes a

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court, who can oppose him?
Surely he recognizes deceivers.

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And when he sees evil, does he
not take note?

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But the witness can no more
become wise than a wild donkey’s

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colt can be born human.
Yeah, if you devote your heart

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to Him and stretch out your
hands to Him, if you put away

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the sin that is in your hand and
allow no evil to dwell in your

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tent, then free of fault, you
will lift up your face.

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You will stand firm and without
fear.

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You will surely forget your
trouble, recalling it only as

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water’s gone by.
Life will be brighter than

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noonday, and darkness will
become like morning.

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You will be secure because there
is hope.

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You will look about you and take
your rest in safety.

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You will lie down with no one to
make you afraid, and many will

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court your favor.
But the eyes of the wicked will

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fail and escape will elude them.
Their hope will become a dying

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gasp.
Then Job comes back.

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Mom.
Doubtless you are the only

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people who matter and wisdom
will die with you, but I have a

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mind as well as you.
I am not inferior to you who

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does not know all these things.
These guys were just arguing

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back and forth and the problem
was they all had cores of

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accurate theology.
And so this is I think the

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message why this is the last
verse.

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Zofar was not wrong and some of
his theology, if you devote your

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heart to him and stretch your
hands to him, if you put away

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the sin that is in your hand and
allow no evil to dwell in your

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tent like he’s talking about.
If we come back to God, if we

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can let go of all of it and come
back to God, he will raise us

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up.
There is hope so far is not

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wrong.
But his message to Job was

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tainted by his assumptions of
Job and his assumptions of how

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life worked.
And so he was giving Job

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guidance that was actually
misaligned and as a result was

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not helpful.
And how often have we, in our

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moments of hopelessness, been
given guidance that ended up

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being not helpful because it was
misaligned?

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We live in a reality where
there’s a lot of ideas of how

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life works, and as a result,
there’s a lot of advice that may

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actually be very bad advice.
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It could even sound logical.
It can even have elements of

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truth.
Zofar’s biggest problem wasn’t

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that his theology was misaligned
because that’s the reality for

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all of us.
I love the quote from NT Wright

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where basically he says I’m
confident that 80% of my

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theology is correct.
The problem is I don’t know

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which 20% is wrong.
NT Wright was acknowledging that

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he has done a lot of work to try
to be intentional and operate

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with integrity and how he
explores God and how he

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understands him and how he
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But he’s humble enough to know
that he has not yet achieved

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perfection, that he has not yet
grasped full understanding that

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that won’t happen until he is
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Right now it’s just seeing
things as in a mirror dimly.

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We all have elements of theology
that have truth in some degree

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but are misaligned.
The reason I believe, one of the

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reasons I believe that God
summed up his expectation of us

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to love God and love others is
because right now in this state,

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Zofar was really failing to do
both of those.

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Well, he might have believed he
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he is talking about God in a
favorable way and he’s trying to

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help his friend.
He’s loving God and loving

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others.
God love his accusations on

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these friends and Job has to go
and then forgive them and stand

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in the gap for them.
God did not feel loved by what

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Zofar was doing here, and Job
clearly did not feel loved by

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what Zofar was doing here.
And so Zofar’s theological

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pressing was not based on love,
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was based on his frustration
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Its annoyance with Job maybe was
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You know, Job calls it out.
Oh, doubtless you are the only

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people who matter and wisdom
will die with you.

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I have a mind as well as you.
I am not inferior to you.

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Job is sensing pride.
So here we have this solid

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theological truth. 1118 you will
be secure because there is hope.

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You will look about you and take
your rest in safety.

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That is true and it is buried
with an accusations.

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Pride, self love and this is one
of the challenges that we face

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with Hope is there are so many
external and internal voices

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that are conveying advice from
an unhealthy or incomplete space

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and it is hard to know what to
do with it.

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It was hard for Job to know how
to respond to these calls to

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Hope from friends who he felt
like were attacking him, he says

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several places I’m here in the
worst state, not just I’ve ever

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been in, but anyone has ever
been in, and all you can do is

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attack and condemn me.
Here’s my encouragement for you.

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I think this is very common for
this to happen, for hope, for

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truth to be misaligned and to
cause harm and then as a result

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to confuse us, to make us feel
like I, I, I don’t want to

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disagree with this message, but
something is not sitting right.

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What Zofar needed to do was
really know who God was and love

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him and love Job.
What Job needed to do, and God

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called him out on this was to
know who God was to the extent

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that he didn’t demand God
explain himself, because even

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Zofar names it.
You can’t grasp the mysteries of

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God.
There is hope.

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We can feel secure and rest in
it, but along the way there are

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going to be a lot of messages
that muddy the water.

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But the Spirit is real.
Jesus said I will send an

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advocate in the helper.
The Spirit can pray on your

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behalf with wordless groans is
how it’s named.

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Later.
There is a hope that hope coming

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from any other source but God
could confuse us, could

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frustrate us, could make us feel
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God is the source of hope.
There is a hope where in God.

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So my challenge for you is to
know where you’re seeking your

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hope and when that hope is being
projected in a misaligned way to

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come back and to come back and
to come back to God as we read

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yesterday in his word, there is
that hope.

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So Job 1118 and you will feel
secure because there is hope.

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You will look around and take
your rest in security.

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So Father God, we just thank you
that you are God and you are

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good.
And we just acknowledge that we

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are hearing so many voices
internally and externally.

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Help us to have ears to hear
your voice amidst the noise.

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Thank you always.
Thank you for joining me on this

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journey.
Keep an eye out.

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Rejecting hope no longer is
coming to Amazon soon.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
There is hope.