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When we’re in the midst of
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frustrating tendency to invoke
limitations limitations on

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ourselves limitations on what
others can do limitations on

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what’s even possible.
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is that in the worst moments, we
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Now, we’ll say that God can do
all things that nothing is

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impossible for him, but too
often, that’s not reflected in

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our faith.
That’s not reflected in our

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Outlook.
That’s not reflected in how we

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step.
Up, a few months ago, you heard

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the story of windy Wallace, who
after a flesh eating bacteria,

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took her hands and feet.
She ultimately decided that

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can’t was not a word that she
was going to use today’s guest.

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Dorsey, Ross has taken that word
out of his vocabulary, as well,

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as you’ll hear, there’s a lot of
reasons he could use the word

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can’t but he knows that that’s
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And in fact through Decades of
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learned that he doesn’t have to
use the word can’t because God

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is not limited.
Our invitation, in the midst of

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suffering is to stop trying to
limit him, and let him be who he

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is, you’re listening to episode
133 of the where did you see God

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podcast?
Father.

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God, I just wanna thank you that
you are God and you are good.

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And I thank you for Dorsey in
the fact that we’ve already been

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able to connect and talk and
share with each other and that

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you’ve opened up this
opportunity for us to continue

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in conversation and we already
know there’s so much.

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You could bring out of this
conversation but rather than

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just assume we want to invite
you You, if there’s something

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that you want to bring about, in
this time that you want to press

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this into that, you want us to
sit in we invite you now to

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guide us in that.
So, we give you our words and

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our thoughts.
We give it all to you, because

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we know you could do a bundle
anymore with it.

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And we just thank you in advance
for how you will work in this

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time.
All this.

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We pray in your most, holy name.
Amen.

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The moon.
So Dorsey you and I connected

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because I got the privilege of
being a guest on your podcast.

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And so now, I’m excited that
we’re able to have a

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conversation now.
But before we jump in, what

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would you want people to?
Know about who you are.

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As we step into this
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people to know that we call the
her, what they hear, regardless

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of what they hear is that, I am
a person that will not give up.

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Well, not about in a pursuit of
a goal, in pursuit of a career,

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in the field of doing something,
I was with a few years and a few

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adults the other night and
nobody Anything to me about,

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hey, go ahead and the trailers.
But we were doing a simulated

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Home Run Derby contest.
Before the Homeland did, they

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came on TV in the backyard of
the cook with tennis balls and

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metal bats and everything and
they tried it, you know?

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And it wins you know by any
contending get hit a home run

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but I’ll only stay quiet, you
know, and people that don’t know

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me, they don’t realize that I
have armed and are not easily

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accessible to go up all the way.
They don’t even go out all the

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way vertically or horizontally.
So I don’t have to, with of

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someone neck and, you know,
quote unquote.

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Normal perking hear me.
Look at me.

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Hey, donkey, nothing to be able
to play baseball and or cannot

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then be able to play football.
But I done that all of my life

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growing up in my teenage and
even into my somewhat adult

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years.
Yeah, that’s one thing I really

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love Justin.
When we had a conversation

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before and the little bit, I
know, About you.

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It’s that you are aware of the
challenges, the obstacles in the

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limitations, but you’re also
aware of what it means to still

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step forward.
It’s something that’s really

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beautiful.
Especially because when you

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share about that, it’s not a
small and light thing, you’ve

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probably had a lot of people
that have heard your story.

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That I’ve looked and said, man,
I just man, I don’t even know

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how you step forward and it
really confronts this idea of

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how we understand capacity and
perception.

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But you made a comment that
because this is Do you only

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people can’t see you even if
they could see you they might

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not actually know about a pert
syndrome who and so what is

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that?
And tell me a little bit more

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about how that played into I
mean from the start of your

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life.
Sure you could congenital birth

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defect.
I was born on January 16 1977

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and when I was born my forehead
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Wigman I can know her pushed
back into my head and my finger

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You can’t Uncle fused together.
Mean they had no in a vehicle

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movement over them and if you
would look up, it can do more

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look up.
Picking a baby with a black

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Kingdom.
And you look at their hands

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nowadays.
They don’t have a lot of mink or

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globe, without the individual
fingers, right?

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But if you look at it, the hands
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like it was a glove because they
don’t have the individual

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fingers out of yet.
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Also, My thing as well, one on
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fused together to this day.
My parents were not even aware

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of what was going on.
My mom thought he had come

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temperature only because he was
older, any he would 41, my dad

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was 45.
He went to the doctor to get

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looked at the doctor told her.
Well, good news is that you

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don’t have a tumor growing
inside of you, but you do have

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have a baby.
So back to the time when I was

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in the hospital two dads with
came back in and explain to my

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parent, what was going on and at
the same time of the physical

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deformities that I had going on.
I also had no cook but or no

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room for my opening to wrong
your mouth baby up one with a

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quick bite or the school opening
to a lot of planes are grow and

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load up thing to funking
normally and the doctor Hit the

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my parents look.
We don’t think that he going to

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go Vive.
We don’t think he’ll make it in

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this life.
They could have backed up him

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for.
You would be to kind of papers

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over in to put him into some
type of institution and

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thankfully my parent couple.
Both people of faith and both

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believed and trusting in God and
believe that God had a great

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plan and public for my wife and
said we will not do that.

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We will go to trust in God and
see what God is gonna do and he

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what will happen.
And they took me to another

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hospital in New York City where
I born and I grew up for most of

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my life and adapt.
Exactly.

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Well, we can operate on your son
to, we leave the butter on

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whooping with.
They did a kick weeks and they

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said, you know, if you do
survive, he’ll have to overcome

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a lot of difficulty and a lot of
crew.

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Losing a huge that he’ll have to
face in his wife, you know, from

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hick week to 10 about 17. 18
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I had about 68 operating over my
lifetime.

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Yeah there’s a lot that’s really
powerful about your story and I

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know you have shared your story
in many spaces and I imagine

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often times the story that
people are hearing is, you know,

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hey I had all these obstacles
and challenges but I persevered

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Read and you can too.
And that’s a good message.

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But there’s this really
beautiful message.

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That’s also in there that it
just keeps on standing out to

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me.
And there’s a verse that cane of

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mine, that’s actually come up
multiple times this week.

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And as you were talking, it made
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And it comes from 2nd, Timothy
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I’m reminded of your sincere
Faith, a faith that dwelt first

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in your grandmother Lois and
your mother Eunice and now I’m

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sure dwells in you as well.
And Verse 6 says this, for this

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reason, I remind you to Fan into
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The gift of God which is in you
through the laying on of my

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hands.
For God has not given us a

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spirit of fear but of power and
love and self-control but it’s

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the piece of that passage that I
think people gloss over that he

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says I’m reminded of your
sincere Faith.

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A faith that dwelt first in your
grandmother Lois and in your

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mother Eunice because you have a
beautiful Faith.

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Now, your understanding of who
God is and how God can provide

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Capacity is encouraging and
inspiring but that didn’t begin

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with you.
You talked about how your

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parents had this strong faith
and they too were confronted

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with this challenge.
This obstacle, doctors telling

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her.
Hey, there’s not really much we

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can do, he might not survive, if
he survives, he’s not going to

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have a good life.
So really you don’t have many

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options here but their faith
told them that God could do the

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impossible.
Amen.

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And so they step forward and it
planted this seed, it set this

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Foundation.
That now as you grew, Just as

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Timothy sincere, Faith started
out in the foundation of his

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grandmother and his mother.
The faith of your parents has

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impacted you, and it also
reminded me of a guest that I

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had back at the start of the
Season named Tricia, who was in

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a similar situation as your
parents, she was pregnant.

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The doctors gave her the hard
news that there were some

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obstacles and challenges and
they just really didn’t believe

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that her baby would even make
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So there’s just not much they
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There’s no options here, but her
faith told her God was actually

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up to abundantly more than she
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Ask her.
Imagine she was able to make it

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through the pregnancy and her
child live for about a week, but

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there is something beautiful in
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God, in that Journey where other
voices were telling her.

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There was no hope.
And so, when you think about

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this idea of how the faith that
existed before you were even

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born has planted a seed within
you, how can you see that

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playing out in your life?
I can keep playing it all my

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life because my parents worked
in and God and I’m taking on

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that baton.
I’m taking it from them.

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Aunt worked in in God as well.
I’m trusting in God for the big

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thing I’m playing for the big
thing I’m playing for the future

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wife that God had for me.
You know, I’m playing for

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financials to building, you
know, to live on my own and to

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provide for myself on my own and
cook to do greater things than

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you know, the Bible cocoa.
We can do greater things than

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what Jesus did on this Earth and
I want to, he don’t think

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happened, I wanted to believe in
the whole thing.

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Opening.
But contained, we don’t see

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those things happening and we’re
like, all right guys, what’s

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happening here?
Why don’t we Feeny things?

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And I think contains it the lack
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We need to build up that faith
in God to be able to see God.

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Do those things that we want to
see him.

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Do ya, the other piece of this
too is sometimes, we don’t see

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it because we put limitations on
how it can happen and who it can

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happen for and that’s part of
what your story has included as

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well, you Or that there are
people that can look at you and

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make assumptions about what
you’re capable of what’s

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possible.
And we do that with faith as

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well.
We do that with spirituality,

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this is why we see in the New
Testament is the Pharisees

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assumed that they were the ones
who had the spiritual power and

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authority, because of their
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Meanwhile, Jesus like actually
got uses the least of these

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because it shows his power all
the more, but even if we grab

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onto that, even if we’re like, I
want to have faith.

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I want to trust God.
One of the things.

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Things that I’ve had to process
a lot through the season focused

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on sitting in suffering is that
there are these moments where

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internally it can become very
hard where we are struggling

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where we’re asking God to change
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Have you had moments like that
in your life, where the struggle

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just felt very deep.
I’m gonna lie, I think

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definitely when it comes to my
health especially when it comes

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to the internal goal of my
health that I’ve had, you know,

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in the past 10 or 15 years.
And I didn’t even know they can

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to, we can’t lie.
But apparently it’s part of the

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disability where my stomach is
contesting and it tightens

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between the stomach and the
small intestine every couple of

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years.
The doctor has to go in and do

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the entire could be testing,
open up the stomach.

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And, you know, make sure that
the food and everything is do

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casting happily and they go back
in and they look in their neck

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and they find out that and then,
you can come all can’t have

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anything ever happening, but
They find out that a healthy can

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cut of the Barrett’s esophagus,
you know, you like, hey God you

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know what happening here, you
know what’s going on and you

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know, my dad’s still living my
dad 91.

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No, he lives with me.
And he’s like, don’t worry

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about, don’t worry about, don’t
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I’m like, yeah, well you didn’t
go up in a school, where you

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heard, every shoe monk because I
went to school for people with

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disability.
So once in a while you hear over

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the loudspeaker, hey will carry
to tell you guys.

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But Nico packed away, or this
person passed away, and this

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person passed away and then you
become doctor.

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Google, Web, MD, you know, you
look up April, hinder them and

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they’re like, well, you can
somewhat live to a normal life

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span, you know?
But they don’t tell you exactly

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what that life span is and that
living feel like, oh, do they

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may be the last day of my life,
you know, and that living like

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that at all.
I’m living in faith and

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believing.
Hey, God, I’m here.

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You have me write what you want
me to be and living for what you

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want me to do and if you want me
to live another 20 years or 30

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years.
Hey great.

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Thank God.
You know for life and whatever

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you have for me you have for me.
Yeah.

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And it’s Hap’s into this deeper
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That is particularly hard.
Like there’s a level of Faith

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where we really don’t know much
about God.

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And we hear that God can heal
and save and do amazing things.

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And we Decide.
Okay well I will trust God I

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will trust this good cat I would
trust this loving God but then

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there’s this deeper level where
it’s you know what God’s capable

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of and you are also witnessing
him not doing the things, you

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know he can do.
So when you’re talking about

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your arms right it made me think
of there’s a passage in

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scripture where Jesus
encountered someone whose hand

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or arm was crippled and Jesus
touch it and healed it made it

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whole, I’ve talked to guess one
of them Darcy.

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Whose name just keeps on coming
up in my Cast.

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She had had a disability that
God healed miraculously and then

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20 years later or so it came
back and God didn’t heal at that

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time.
Oh well, so it’s like God, I

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know you were capable of doing
this and you’re choosing not to

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do it and it’s at that juncture
where we had to make a decision,

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right?
On one hand, we can decide that

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well, maybe God isn’t real, or
maybe God isn’t powerful, or

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maybe God, isn’t loving.
And this has been for

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generations and generations.
The debate people have had about

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how You say that, God is God and
God is good when bad things

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happen, right?
But then on the other end of the

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spectrum, you have this
opportunity to say, I really

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want God to fix this really want
God to change this.

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I know he’s capable of doing it
and I know he’s not doing it and

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yet, I’m going to choose still
to follow him.

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Yeah, I’m going to choose still
to name him as God and good.

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And so what helps you to be able
to do that to resolve to still

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honor, God to still love.
God to still trust God, even

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when he’s not fixing the Things.
I think it’s good to have people

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around you that have the king
Faith.

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You know, that believe in you,
that know your story that know

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who you are.
No.

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Hey, I’m gonna be around Paul.
I’m gonna be around.

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Dorothy, I’m gonna be around.
Whoever may be listening to this

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later on, and I’m thinking
around him or her aunt her, and

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we garlic or what they go, they
wouldn’t good time with bad

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time.
I’m gonna be there for them, you

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know?
Definitely.

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Don’t want your friend.
Go go.

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Who can’t hold him.
All these things that you know

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wasn’t good and then you got
Goku wife, who told him good God

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and die.
Don’t want those people around

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you in your life.
You want people that way I won’t

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have to him faith and have the
king belief in God and will be

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there for you in the good times
and in the bad.

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Well, and I have Kevin went over
those friends in my life and I

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think that’s the biggest thing
that has helped me in.

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In do time of my life especially
as an adult.

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Yeah, this theme of community
keeps coming up.

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A lot of the conversations.
I’ve had they come back to this

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idea of wanting to let people
know that they’re not alone that

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we are designed built intended
to operate in community and it

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can be hard sometimes to find
that community and can be hard

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sometimes to discern between
like you said the healthy

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community and unhealthy
Community.

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But at the end of the day, that
is still part of how God

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equipped us is to not try to
just do it on.

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Own and figure it out on her own
but to have people around us

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that can encourage us, that can
challenge us that can speak

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truth because on our own we can
get in our heads.

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You know, there’s that passage
that talks about the heart is

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deceitful above all things.
Like our heart can long for

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certain things that we could
just end up going down a rabbit

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hole and get lost.
And one of those things in, this

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is something you mentioned.
That is also something that’s

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come up in several
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Is this idea of normal?
You said quote, normal unquote,

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It’s something that I think we
as people really wrestle with

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pressing into is we just not
good at acknowledging that we

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have in our mind.
A definition of normal that’s

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not actually real and often not
actually healthy.

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And so what’s your journey been
with that of confronting this

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idea of normalcy?
And how do you understand normal

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now, how do we understand normal
now?

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That’s a great question.
I don’t know.

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It’s really isn’t normal.
What exactly is normal?

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What is normal?
Look like, that was normal

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somebody who 548 you know,
150-pound with Boheme.

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Uncle going to hit the 5 foot 5
guy with a disability or five

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foot five guy who can abang what
exactly is normal, you know, I

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don’t care normal a lot.
I know people who look at me,

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sometimes, don’t see me as
normal.

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And I understand that some young
kid may not understand who.

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Oh, I am understand.
Why I am the way I am.

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Sometimes I have to go back into
the mirror and my myself that I

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am who I am because this is the
way that God created me and I am

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Made In His Image.
I am, he Masterpiece I was

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listening to a clip from Nixon
who cake you got no arms, no

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legs.
And he tells the story of little

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kid that came up to him.
And he thought that the girl or

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the person must have been what
In TV shows about aliens because

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the keg look at him and kicked
him.

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Hey, are you an alien and start
winning.

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Wayne Nick is yoga the King stop
running after the King Kong

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again.
You go back to when he’s normal.

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I think it depends on each
person’s definition of normal.

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I guess you’re hard to Define
that contain what exactly is

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normal.
As I said earlier, I think for

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myself I have to Define it as
you know, I don’t look at myself

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and Normally I look at myself as
I am me in the image of God and

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I am, he Masterpiece, I don’t
try to reckon with whether or

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not God intentionally made me
the way that he did this way or

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was it a scientific if you but
think happened because of the

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Forum in?
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Think it goes back to that, it
happened because we live in a

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fallen world and we live with
the kingmaker befallen.

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Whoa.
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There is a conversation that the
title ended up being the deceit

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of normalcy.
Because I think there is a

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reality that we do, create a
construct of what is normal, but

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that doesn’t necessarily mean,
it is normal, or that it is.

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Good, or did it is to be
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It makes me think of, in the Old
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the chosen people of God, and
they had this beautiful

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relationship with God.
And then, they started looking

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around them at the other nations
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And they’re like, well, it’s
normal to have A king.

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We don’t have a king, so we must
be abnormal.

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So we want to be normal.
God.

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We want a king and gods, like
you don’t need a king.

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You have me, we have this
beautiful relationship, the

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king’s not actually going to get
you.

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What?
You think?

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It’ll get you.
It’ll actually cost you down the

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line, so you just need me.
No, no, no.

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We want to be normal.
We want a king and they pushed

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and pushed and gods.
Like, all right, I’m gonna let

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you have what you want to have,
but I’m trying to let you know

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that all you need is actually
me.

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And then we read about the
tumultuous time that followed as

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Israel kept on wanting to be
We’ll look at the Nations around

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us.
They have these other gods, they

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have these asherah poles and all
these other things and we want

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to be normal.
We want to be like them.

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We don’t want to be set apart.
We don’t want to be different,

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it’s a strange thing within our
human nature.

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There were actually fearful of
being set apart of being

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different but then meanwhile you
have this God who like we said

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earlier chooses the least of
these this God who works in

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unexpected way the god that
cause us to be holy set apart in

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different.
This is what so Oh, crazy about

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this idea of normalcy is
normalcy is tied to our context

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and you will find spaces where
if there is a majority, that

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becomes the norm.
But if we’re claiming to be

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children of God, if we are
claiming to be ambassadors of

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Christ followers of Christ,
well, scripture tells us that

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we’re now citizens of a
different Kingdom, citizens of a

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different construct, a different
context and normal there looks

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very different than normal in
our normal concept.

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Right, we spend all this time
trying to pursue normalcy in

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this context that’s going to
fade away.

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Meanwhile God saying, well, my
Kingdom looks different.

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The people who are part of my
kingdom are set apart.

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So normal, looks very different
here.

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And if we actually just pursued
what God is inviting us to will

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actually find Community like we
talked about why actually fine

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full life will find purpose will
find Value because we’re going

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to be releasing all the things
that seemed normal before.

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But God saying I’m actually
after a And in Lemoore?

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Yeah, the other thing that I’ve
heard come out in these

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conversations is that one people
are realizing God’s trying to

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show me something different
about myself, God’s trying, to

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confront my idea of normalcy,
God’s trying to draw me closer

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to him.
But this community piece also

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brings into this other element,
where people realize that,

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whereas they used to think about
what they wanted for their life,

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for themselves for their own
preservation for their own

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comfort for their own growth.
God was inviting him to a place

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where their life was Actually
meaningful for others.

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So you’re going out there and
you’re sharing your story.

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And the reality is, is now
that’s giving you the

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opportunity to be used by God to
impact the lives of others has

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God, given you glimpses of him
using your story to bring full

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life to others.
Oh yeah, I’m gonna lie.

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I’ve gotten no confetti from
people about how my story has

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tuck them and encourage them.
And even from, you know,

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5-minute conversation or even a
little less from people after

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the service of what days had To
go through in their own life and

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King.
He your story has encouraged me

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and talk to me.
Thank you for coming and thank

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you for sharing your story and
what does that then?

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Show you about what the purpose
of our life is with the goal of

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our life is because again the
scenario in our mind is that God

437
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could have just fixed everything
but you’re finding yourself in

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these context where there’s
things that he hasn’t fixed

439
00:24:09,000 –> 00:24:10,100
very.
There’s things that they’re

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still discovering and you’re
encountering, people who are in

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similar spaces.
How does that change your

442
00:24:14,900 –> 00:24:17,700
understanding of the purpose and
goal of life?

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I think, for me, personally, my
goal in my, you know, purpose in

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life, is to and Creek, other
people is to inspire other

445
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people, to let other people know
that they’re not alone in their

446
00:24:32,900 –> 00:24:35,800
struggles.
They’re not alone in their lack

447
00:24:35,800 –> 00:24:39,900
of faith, or maybe not
understanding Faith all the way

448
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or not.
Fully understanding, who God

449
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really eat.
And just, you know, trying to

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encourage them and trying to do
help them and show them War book

451
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and people, we all got issues in
all of our Lives.

452
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All the good work that me being
that me look, like, even my own

453
00:24:59,100 –> 00:25:02,700
podcast, it very easy of what’s
doing people.

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Give I’ve had people tell their
story go health issues and

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mental issues and think of that
nature.

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And once in a while, I have to
bring somebody in that way.

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Make me unique laugh because I
need that light honex doing

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won’t come in a while.
Yeah, I think you can so close

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that when I do long, I think
even we garlic, if you believe

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in God or not, it shows that
when a long we all have issues

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00:25:28,400 –> 00:25:31,100
in our own like that, we need to
look at.

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And we like that, we’re not
dealing one out there.

463
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Struggling with that particular
issue.

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We go.
That what that is.

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Yeah, there’s this passage that
I wish I had memorized, but it

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talks about the enemies like a
roaring lion seeking.

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Seeking someone to devour.
But then the invitation is to

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recognize that we find power in
being unified in our shared

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sufferings, right?
So that’s one thing I love about

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what you said about.
Your podcast is your hearing

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00:25:56,400 –> 00:25:58,900
stories from diverse
experiences.

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You’re hearing about hardships
in different spheres and it’s

473
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giving this invitation for
people to connect its to say no

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matter what you’re going
through, you don’t have to be

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alone.
So let’s come together.

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Come sit with me.
Let’s talk.

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On a microphone.
Let’s share our conversation

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with others.
So, that collectively we are

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sharing in this suffering.
And that sounds like a daunting

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thing because we’re thinking
about suffering in a bad way.

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But what if we focused more on
the sharing piece?

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Right?
Like that, we all are

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experiencing suffering in some
way, but we have the invitation

484
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to actually share together in
this to be together in this to

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support each other in this.
And that’s one thing I really

486
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appreciate about you is, you’re
putting yourself out there like,

487
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you could have the option To
just be like, whoa is me, my

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life is not what I wanted to be,
so I’m just going to hide away.

489
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You could have had that option
chosen for you.

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That’s what the doctors were
saying.

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Hey, you’re going to need to put
him in an institution because

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there’s just no hope.
There’s no options.

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His life’s, not going to amount
to anything.

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And meanwhile, God’s like, oh
no, I made him in my image.

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I know the plans, I have for
him, I know how I want to work,

496
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not just in his life, but
through his life in the lives of

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others in ways, that he may
never even know and out of a

498
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step of faith.
You are continuing to each day,

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choose to go out there and speak
in front of a group or go out

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there.
Do a podcast or go out there,

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00:27:21,400 –> 00:27:24,400
grab a baseball bat even though
others might be looking to say,

502
00:27:24,400 –> 00:27:27,900
as you can be able to hit it,
you’re not basing your decisions

503
00:27:27,900 –> 00:27:32,300
off of how successful they will
be in a normal understanding of

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00:27:32,300 –> 00:27:34,200
the world.
You’re basing your decisions off

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00:27:34,200 –> 00:27:36,600
of I’m a Child of God.
God has given me what?

506
00:27:36,600 –> 00:27:38,300
He’s given me.
And so I’m going to step in

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00:27:38,300 –> 00:27:40,200
faith with that and give it back
to him.

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And so, I just wanted to
encourage you in that because I

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really appreciate that.
That you are stepping in faith

510
00:27:46,000 –> 00:27:48,300
in that way.
But also to say, I do really

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believe that in addition to the
people, you know about who have

512
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been encouraged by the story
God’s given you.

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I think there are hundreds,
maybe even thousands that you

514
00:27:56,400 –> 00:28:00,200
don’t know about that.
Are encouraged because they are

515
00:28:00,200 –> 00:28:03,500
seeing you step in faith and
recognizing that they have that

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00:28:03,500 –> 00:28:06,200
same invitation as well to that
end.

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Imagine somebody’s listening
right now that is going through

518
00:28:10,300 –> 00:28:12,500
a similar struggle, is what
you’ve gone through in your

519
00:28:12,500 –> 00:28:14,300
life.
Maybe it’s physical Nations,

520
00:28:14,300 –> 00:28:16,800
maybe it’s moments in life,
where people look at them and

521
00:28:16,800 –> 00:28:19,200
say you can’t do this, you can’t
do that.

522
00:28:19,300 –> 00:28:22,300
Maybe it’s their own longing for
what they want life to be but

523
00:28:22,300 –> 00:28:24,700
God’s not bringing it there.
What would you say to someone

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00:28:24,700 –> 00:28:26,800
who’s sitting in that space is
suffering right now?

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00:28:27,200 –> 00:28:29,300
I was okay.
Don’t give up.

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00:28:29,500 –> 00:28:33,800
Keep believing for what it is
that you are believing for.

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00:28:34,200 –> 00:28:38,200
Keep asking, keep seeking, keep
knocking on the door and asking

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00:28:38,200 –> 00:28:41,200
God, for what it is that he has
for you.

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And I think sometimes you
playing We asked me, he can we

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knock for what we want for our
own like and what we think the

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plan of God 04:00 online.
And that’s not what God had fun

532
00:28:54,600 –> 00:28:57,000
at all.
You know, growing up I wanted to

533
00:28:57,000 –> 00:28:59,900
be a youth pastor, that’s what I
thought.

534
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God had for me, you know, mainly
teenage years.

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That’s what I thought.
God had for me, was to be a

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00:29:04,808 –> 00:29:09,400
youth person and I have someone
come up to me and say to me,

537
00:29:09,600 –> 00:29:12,700
hey, donkey, I see you traveling
around, sharing your story, all

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00:29:12,700 –> 00:29:15,300
across this country.
Probably 17 18.

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And at the time, I think that’s
me, you know, thank you very

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much.
That’s very encouraging

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comforting.
Thank you for that.

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Didn’t really think my carpet.
Probably thought to myself.

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Yeah, this kid eating your kid.
We could speak impediment is now

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00:29:30,300 –> 00:29:34,700
gone across the conky hearing
Historia, right?

545
00:29:35,100 –> 00:29:38,100
Long story, short, I went on an
interview after interview, after

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00:29:38,100 –> 00:29:42,300
going to Bible College, God kept
clogging up the door and I was

547
00:29:42,300 –> 00:29:45,100
given an opportunity to To hear
my story.

548
00:29:45,100 –> 00:29:46,700
I don’t know.
We could have it at my home,

549
00:29:46,700 –> 00:29:50,400
cooks and Queens, New York, and
that he’ll go to work Ministry.

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00:29:50,400 –> 00:29:53,300
Got started.
So, okay, whether you’re

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00:29:53,300 –> 00:29:56,700
suffering, whether you’re asking
for their and we’re not heating

552
00:29:56,700 –> 00:30:01,200
up playing could, you know, keep
kicking him until God told, you

553
00:30:01,200 –> 00:30:02,700
know, that’s not what I have for
you.

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00:30:02,700 –> 00:30:05,300
This is what I have.
You keep seeking it.

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00:30:05,500 –> 00:30:09,500
Until now God told me, no, and
don’t want you to get married.

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00:30:09,500 –> 00:30:11,900
I want you to live the list of
your life, single.

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00:30:12,400 –> 00:30:15,700
I’m going to keep asking.
He can keep knocking for that

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00:30:15,700 –> 00:30:21,100
woman, God has for me, I’m Nick,
be 99 years old, I made the film

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00:30:21,100 –> 00:30:24,900
she can knocking and asking but
I’m still gonna believe in

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00:30:24,900 –> 00:30:27,200
faith.
And by faith, that he has

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00:30:27,200 –> 00:30:30,300
someone out there for me,
regardless of what the girls

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think of me with garlic and what
they think and they when they

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00:30:32,500 –> 00:30:36,100
hear me, I’m gonna believe by
faith that he has someone out

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00:30:36,100 –> 00:30:40,300
there for me when I love.
And that too, is it confronts

565
00:30:40,300 –> 00:30:42,900
our tendency to limit what God
can do?

566
00:30:43,000 –> 00:30:44,800
You just described?
With marriage, like we put

567
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limitations on.
Well, there is a window in,

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which it’s normal to get
married.

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There’s a scenario in which
someone to get married, there’s

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Logistics in which you need to
have in place to get married.

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00:30:54,000 –> 00:30:57,000
And what you’re basically saying
is, yeah I’m aware of all those,

572
00:30:57,200 –> 00:31:00,100
but I also know if God wants to
bring a wife when I’m 99, he can

573
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do it.
I mean, he brought Abraham a

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baby when he was too old to have
a baby.

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So why are we putting
limitations on God and even when

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00:31:07,400 –> 00:31:10,500
you described this person coming
up and saying going to go all

577
00:31:10,500 –> 00:31:12,700
around the country it was very
logical for you to think this

578
00:31:12,700 –> 00:31:15,400
but you’re like God Speech
impediment, I’m 18.

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That’s not going to happen.
Also, it’s not what I want.

580
00:31:17,500 –> 00:31:20,600
I want to be a youth pastor.
So, in this to is this

581
00:31:20,600 –> 00:31:25,100
invitation of being aware of our
human logic, being aware of the

582
00:31:25,100 –> 00:31:27,300
limitations and still being able
to say.

583
00:31:27,300 –> 00:31:30,800
But nonetheless, if God wants to
do something, he can do it.

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And as you were talking it
brought this question in mind.

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00:31:33,200 –> 00:31:35,700
That now I’m wishing, I would
have asked more often in past

586
00:31:35,700 –> 00:31:39,900
conversations, you grew up in a
household where your parents

587
00:31:39,900 –> 00:31:42,900
believed in God, you were
introduced to God at a very

588
00:31:42,900 –> 00:31:45,000
young age.
And God has been a part of your

589
00:31:45,000 –> 00:31:49,900
life and who you have known God
to be, has probably shifted and

590
00:31:49,900 –> 00:31:52,500
grown and changed throughout the
course of your life.

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00:31:52,500 –> 00:31:55,800
And so, if someone came to you,
now, that knew nothing about

592
00:31:55,800 –> 00:31:58,500
God.
And you had the opportunity to

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00:31:58,500 –> 00:32:02,200
answer the question, who is God
to you, how would you answer

594
00:32:02,200 –> 00:32:04,200
that?
Who is God to you Dorsey?

595
00:32:04,600 –> 00:32:09,200
Well, first of all, I he got out
a father figure, you know?

596
00:32:09,200 –> 00:32:13,600
I think God as my father, got me
feeling like Iggy anchor but you

597
00:32:13,600 –> 00:32:16,700
know, Don’t think we always
think of it that way, you know,

598
00:32:16,700 –> 00:32:19,000
even myself.
I don’t always think of it that

599
00:32:19,000 –> 00:32:21,600
way.
Yes, we have an Earthly father

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00:32:21,600 –> 00:32:25,600
figure but yet we also have a
Heavenly Father Figure and I

601
00:32:25,600 –> 00:32:27,600
don’t think we all we we like
that.

602
00:32:27,900 –> 00:32:31,800
God I won with, you know,
sending his son Hugh who craved

603
00:32:31,800 –> 00:32:35,700
to die for Kings.
He got through our cable, you

604
00:32:35,700 –> 00:32:39,900
came to the Croc to die for
kinky that way, we don’t have to

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00:32:39,900 –> 00:32:42,500
do all the things that able to
hand and I hate them.

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00:32:42,500 –> 00:32:45,900
All he had to do to To repent
over there King.

607
00:32:45,900 –> 00:32:48,800
All we have to do is go to him.
Okay.

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God forgive me for my sins.
Yes, in a week or two or

609
00:32:52,100 –> 00:32:55,000
tomorrow or the next day I may
go back and making it that

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00:32:55,000 –> 00:32:58,700
thinking and I’m struggling with
it and dealing with it and I

611
00:32:58,700 –> 00:33:01,100
need your help to help me with
it.

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00:33:01,400 –> 00:33:04,200
But yet we don’t have to find an
animal.

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00:33:04,200 –> 00:33:07,200
We’re not have to go to the
temple and, you know, are for

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00:33:07,200 –> 00:33:09,800
forgiving, the court to any type
of sacrifice.

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00:33:09,800 –> 00:33:15,300
He already did that sacrifice
for the cause Hehe Modi Peak

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00:33:15,300 –> 00:33:19,200
maker, a loving caring guy.
Ugh, there’s so much more.

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We could talk about, maybe one
day, we’ll keep on talking some

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00:33:22,000 –> 00:33:24,900
more about things.
But for now, I imagine, they’re

619
00:33:24,900 –> 00:33:27,900
people that are listening, that
would like to learn more about

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00:33:27,900 –> 00:33:29,900
your story would like to connect
with you.

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So how can people connect with
you?

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00:33:32,008 –> 00:33:35,300
And, or syros Ministries the
easy way for people to connect

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00:33:35,300 –> 00:33:41,000
with me would be to go to
www.hsn.com ministries.com.

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That’s the easy way.
And you can find And all my

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00:33:44,600 –> 00:33:46,800
conquer media link on the
website.

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00:33:46,900 –> 00:33:49,100
I’m on Facebook, I’m on
Instagram.

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00:33:49,400 –> 00:33:54,500
And you can all come by my book
directly from me on my website,

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00:33:54,500 –> 00:33:56,000
as well.
It’s great.

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And as we close out, is there
anything else on your heart or

630
00:33:59,400 –> 00:34:01,800
mind that you feel like God’s
prompting you to share?

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00:34:02,100 –> 00:34:06,300
Okay, one of my life King, who
can they keep talking?

632
00:34:06,300 –> 00:34:09,800
Like, you’re going to get a
teacup nig with this scene on

633
00:34:09,800 –> 00:34:12,000
it.
One of my life changes, canton’s

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00:34:12,000 –> 00:34:16,800
not in my vocabulary.
And that come from flipping

635
00:34:16,800 –> 00:34:19,699
4:13.
I can do all things through

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00:34:19,699 –> 00:34:23,500
Christ, who gives me strength.
Now, obviously there’s no

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00:34:23,500 –> 00:34:28,199
limitations to that roof.
And what I mean by that, is that

638
00:34:28,300 –> 00:34:34,000
in God, will up to him, to give
us the strength to do, the

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00:34:34,000 –> 00:34:39,600
things that God want to you do,
in my 45 years of wife, and

640
00:34:39,600 –> 00:34:44,500
giving my life to Christ today,
he could 13 it, he Strength, the

641
00:34:44,500 –> 00:34:49,800
egg help me to keep going if I
didn’t have his strength in my

642
00:34:49,800 –> 00:34:52,400
life, I would have given up a
long time ago.

643
00:34:53,000 –> 00:34:58,200
You know, I don’t use the word
cat very much in my vocabulary.

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00:34:58,900 –> 00:35:01,500
You know, going back to the
baseball thing I could have

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00:35:01,500 –> 00:35:04,800
said, well, I can’t do that.
I’m 45 years old and they are,

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don’t go out all the way out.
Can’t hit EB equal up.

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Make, you know, but I didn’t
care that.

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I was like, hey, I’m gonna go
out and try to see what happens.

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Okay.
Turn the people don’t use the

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word can’t in your to Gabrielle
at least try to limit that would

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and often like you can in your
vocabulary especially when God

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tells you hey I want you to go
and do this for me.

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I don’t want you to go and do
that for me for my will for your

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life again and I didn’t have got
strength of my life and I didn’t

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have his will for my life and
that morning or that afternoon

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when God said to me hey I want
you to send out That packet of

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information about this ministry
that and creating for you to do.

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I want you to send it out and
see what I would do with it

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00:35:51,400 –> 00:35:53,800
again.
I could have we really back to

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the 18 year old kid who was told
hey Doc, you’re going to travel

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00:35:57,300 –> 00:36:00,800
around the country, hearing your
story, I could have hit the guy

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God I can’t do that, you know?
But I didn’t act like.

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Alright guys, if that’s what you
want me to do, I will.

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And that I don’t know if you
want to call it klapheke or

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whatever and Kirk Nick whatnot,
whatever, that way, That almost

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come full freaking because I’ve
gone through, probably almost

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half the country now hearing my
story.

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Trees shouting praise to the
your heels, your

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Dorothy, shared that, it’s life
motto.

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That the word can’t is not a
part of his vocabulary comes

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from the verse Philippians 4:13
which says this I can do all

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things through him, who
strengthens me.

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Me.
And what I love about what

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Dorsey shared is he was keenly
aware that he did have physical

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limitations.
However, he knows that where he

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is limited, God is not and if
God invites him to operate in a

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certain way or to do a certain
thing, he can step into that

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00:37:11,300 –> 00:37:15,000
despite his limitations because
he can do all things through

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God.
Who strengthens him through God,

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who equips him through God, who
guides him, this is how the

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Apostle Paul.
Understood God.

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00:37:23,300 –> 00:37:25,400
The Apostle Paul knew what it
meant.

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And to sit in suffering.
In fact, the preceding verse

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says this, I know how to be
brought low, and I know how to

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abound in any and every
circumstance.

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I have learned the secret of
facing plenty and hunger,

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abundance and need.
We’ve talked many times about

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all the things, the Apostle Paul
went through.

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And in fact, so often when he
was writing things like these,

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he was imprisoned literally
limited to where he could go and

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what he could do.
And yet, he could still do All

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00:37:55,600 –> 00:37:59,100
things through God who
strengthened him we have got to

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00:37:59,100 –> 00:38:02,400
contend with the reality that we
are prone to limit.

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God we limit how much we think
he understands about her

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00:38:05,500 –> 00:38:08,300
situation.
We limit his capacity to do the

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impossible and we limit how much
we trust his vision for the

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future.
We love to limit God that we

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00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:18,700
don’t want to admit it.
We do so because we’re afraid

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00:38:19,200 –> 00:38:21,500
we’re afraid that God will put
us in a situation.

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00:38:21,500 –> 00:38:24,400
We don’t want to be in, we’re
afraid that God would leave us

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00:38:24,400 –> 00:38:28,400
in places that we Long to escape
were afraid that we won’t get

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00:38:28,400 –> 00:38:31,300
the things we desire.
The things that we long for,

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00:38:31,700 –> 00:38:34,800
we’re afraid that God’s will is
not our will, and I’m sorry to

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00:38:34,800 –> 00:38:39,100
break it to you, but it’s not.
But the good news is God’s will

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00:38:39,400 –> 00:38:43,000
God’s plan.
God’s desires are abundantly

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00:38:43,000 –> 00:38:47,800
more than anything we could have
asked for or imagined who God is

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00:38:47,800 –> 00:38:51,400
making us to be what he is
inviting us to do our

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00:38:51,400 –> 00:38:55,600
accomplishing full life for us.
Even if we don’t realize it, It.

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00:38:55,900 –> 00:38:59,000
This is why God is so patient
with us when we are struggling

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00:38:59,000 –> 00:39:03,300
and suffering because he knows
what he is inviting us into, he

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00:39:03,300 –> 00:39:07,500
knows what he has for us.
Dorsey has had many hard moments

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00:39:07,600 –> 00:39:11,400
and many unmet desires, but the
constant through his life has

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00:39:11,400 –> 00:39:14,900
been that God has loved him.
God has seen him and got his

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00:39:14,900 –> 00:39:17,900
guided him in the moments.
That dorsey’s struggled to catch

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00:39:17,900 –> 00:39:20,900
that God was patient with them.
And in the moments that Dorsey

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00:39:20,900 –> 00:39:23,900
stepped in faith, even if it
didn’t make sense, God did

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00:39:23,900 –> 00:39:27,100
beautiful things.
Dorsey story teaches us that we

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00:39:27,100 –> 00:39:31,000
don’t have to limit God, no
matter what our circumstances

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00:39:31,000 –> 00:39:34,300
are, no matter what, our very
real limitations are.

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We don’t have to limit God, but
we’re prone to.

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00:39:37,800 –> 00:39:40,200
So, will we be willing in the
midst of our suffering, to

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operate with a Proverbs 3:5 and
6 mindset?

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That no matter how we see
ourselves and our situation that

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00:39:46,500 –> 00:39:51,200
we would trust in the Lord with
all of our heart and not lean on

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our own understanding that in
all of our ways?

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00:39:54,500 –> 00:39:57,500
We’d submit It to him because he
knows how to set our path

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00:39:57,500 –> 00:40:00,400
straight.
We may be limited but God is Not

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00:40:00,400 –> 00:40:03,500
and he is inviting us into his
limitlessness.

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We don’t deserve that but how
beautiful it is The God, Who

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00:40:07,700 –> 00:40:10,600
strengthened the Apostle, Paul,
who continues to strengthen,

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00:40:10,600 –> 00:40:15,400
Dorsey desires to strengthen you
as well, choose today to release

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00:40:15,400 –> 00:40:18,500
the limitations that your mind
is shouting to trust God’s

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00:40:18,500 –> 00:40:21,400
limitlessness and to step where
he invites, you to step.

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00:40:21,600 –> 00:40:25,200
And as you do, ask yourself,
where did you see God?

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00:40:25,400 –> 00:40:32,400
God.
Have you ever wanted to read

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00:40:32,400 –> 00:40:33,900
Revelation?
But haven’t known where to

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00:40:33,900 –> 00:40:37,200
start, or have you been afraid
to read Revelation because of

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00:40:37,200 –> 00:40:40,300
all the ways you’ve seen it
misused or maybe you haven’t

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00:40:40,300 –> 00:40:43,500
even wanted to touch Revelation
but feel like maybe you should

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00:40:43,600 –> 00:40:46,700
since it’s part of the Bible.
Well, if you’re in any of these

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positions or any other ones,
I’ve got a resource for you,

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it’s called a journey through
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doesn’t want to read Revelation.
And here’s the thing, hope for

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this resource is that it makes
the expiration of who God is and

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00:41:00,400 –> 00:41:03,600
what revelation Action.
He mean for you accessible,

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00:41:03,700 –> 00:41:06,900
whatever you believe and this
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Revelation study, it’s not going
to dive into the historic

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representations of the imagery
or expertly decipher the

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00:41:12,800 –> 00:41:15,300
prophecies.
The goal of this is not to tell

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you what Revelation means, it’s
to explore what it could mean

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00:41:18,900 –> 00:41:22,000
for you.
Now, this thing is available for

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you right now in a few forms.
One, you could go to

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But if you like something that’s
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And I prefer paper back, whether
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on Amazon because this gives you
a place to write some things out

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because you’re Want a place to
write things out, because I

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really do believe that God wants
to speak to you, through

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00:41:55,600 –> 00:41:59,300
Revelation, whatever you feel
about Revelation, whatever your

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experience, and whatever you
think about God.

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So, if you’re interested, get it
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This is not about making money,

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but about us together exploring,
how we can see God in the midst

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of such a difficult and
controversial book.

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Thank you so much for taking the
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Did you see God podcast?
And I would love for your

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stories to be a part of it as
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So there are a number of ways
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think of someone else, who could
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share it with them.
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And as always as you go through
your day, ask yourself, where

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did you see God?